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Using Metaphors to Understand Eating Disorders with Courtney Dowdell, LCAT, CEDCAT, RDT/BCT

Metaphors for eating disorders: this is one of my favorite topics, hands down.

A bit about Courtney: Courtney is a passionate and dedicated therapist who obtained her graduate degree from New York University. She is a licensed creative arts therapist in New York State, Certified Eating Disorders Therapist (CEDCAT) and a registered/board certified drama therapist with over 10 years of clinical experience.

Courtney brings warmth, compassion, and insight, offering clients an avenue to examine their thoughts and feelings in a nonjudgmental space. She brings all this to our conversation about metaphors for eating disorders and how we can utilize these ideas to incorporate into our food healing journey. 


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[0:01-4:13] Intro

  • I introduced you to our guest

  • I met Courtney when I was in higher level of care

  • Courtney’s background

  • Licensed creative arts therapists, specifically drama therapy in NYU

 

[4:14- 7:22] What does drama therapy actually look like?

  • Drama therapy brings a very embodied approach

  • How individuals can build trust in themselves , in their own bodies and be able to really listen and tune in to their physical and emotional internal cues

  • Eating disorders often cause individuals to fluctuate between rigidity and chaos

  • Role Theory Approach in Drama Therapy

  • Drama therapy in groups

  • Attuning to the bodies of other people

  • Building apathy and seeing different perspectives

 

[7:23- 15:38] The Idea of Metaphors for Eating Disorders

  • Decoding behaviors by using metaphors

  • Being able to create reflections on the things in your life

  • Movements and intentions

  • Divide your energy and bring more joy

  • Embracing compassion to where you’re at right now

  • What are the things that are coming in our way?

  • Nourishing meal plans on a metaphorical level

  • The process of not enough or too much (and finding that middle space)

 

[15:39- 24:40] Hunger Fullness Internal Cues , Building Security, Body Image and How to Approach These Aspects Metaphorically?

  • Developing cues as time goes by

  • Addressing the psychodynamics underneath the issues

  • Wanting certain aspects of the eating disorder

  • The freedom of not engaging with eating disorder thoughts

  • Finding ways to build safety in yourself

  • How to embrace the unknown?

  • Body Image: Everybody is Unique

  • Embracing diversity and individuality

 

[24:41- 35:10] Using Our Voice and Encourage Diversity 

  • Allowing your body to be what it is

  • The Set Point Theory

  • Living in a Standardized Diet Culture

  • Unlearning negative experiences

  • Wherever you’re at is valid

  • Utilizing creative approaches

 

[35:11-36:11] Outro

  • Where to find Courtney?

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Tweetable Quotes

“Our relationship with food, our symptoms is an encoding of basically all the pain, all our experiences and memories in behavior form” - Rachelle Heinemann

“The groupie becomes a holding container to be seen and for individuals to be able to contain their emotions” - Courtney Dowdell

“Show up with courage and rebellion.” - Courtney Dowdell

 


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Hey there! I’m Rachelle, the host of the Understanding Disordered Eating Podcast. As a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, I work with clients to make sense of life’s messy emotional experiences.

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